So, someone calling himself HR/FPF (which happens to be the initials of the moron in this post of mine that he is commenting on) wants to be sure all of us have seen the results of the CNN/Time Europe poll. You know, the one that shows how the US is the greatest threat to world peace, over Iraq and North Korea.
Now I have no idea if this is the real Henk or not. The e-mail address he leaves in my comments section is very different than the one posted in the Foreign Press Foundation story I quote. However, at the end of the day, does it really matter?
I am so tired of hearing this crap about "acting unilaterally" and "threat to peace" and "it's all about the oiiiiillllll".
Know what, I say fuck it. Let's start behaving the way all of our most hysterical critics pretend like we already do, and see how they like that. Let's march into Venezuela and take over the oil fields. Let's tell the UN to go blow itself, and just march into Iraq, kill Saddam, take the oil for our own use, and tell everyone else to get stuffed. If France and Germany want to complain, let's pull all of our support and military might from their respective countries and let them deal alone with the terrorism their current attitude of appeasement is going to foster. Let's stop fettering Israel by making them live up to moral and ethical standards their enemy completely ignores. Hell, give Israel carte blance to deal with their own problems however they see fit. Next time the Il regime in North Korea talks about unleashing a sea of fire, let's show them what one really looks like. Lock up the actors and really stifle the dissent. I mean, if everyone already hates us for for the horrible things we are alleged to do when we don't really do them, why don't we give them what they seem to crave? Turn America loose, kick anyone's ass that disagrees, and grab all of the oil we can to power our SUVs and run all of our technogadgets.
Getting blamed for all of the world's ills gets kind of old, especially when you aren't doing a fraction of the evil stuff you are being accused of (but stuff you could do if you wanted, none the less). Sort of like getting jailed for soliciting prostitution when all you were really doing is offering a lady a ride home. I mean hell, if you're going to have to do the time or take the hit regardless of whether you are innocent or guilty, then you might as well have the satisfaction of doing the crime.
Posted by Neal Mauldin at January 22, 2003 04:13 PM | TrackBackNeal I second, this really is just getting old.
Yeah, it would be nice to cut loose just once. Actually be Darth Vader instead of just being accused of being like him. We could turn the rest of the world into a cemetary if we wanted to, that we haven't says more about us than about that any idiot spouting accusations.
Imperial Rome would have, the Nazi's certainly, even Holland had an early Empire in the new world till they were driven out by France and England. How clean are Dutch hands? Any closet genocides that didn't make it into the history books? How much devastation did Dutch colonies cause in Africa? How many died, how many from famine, or privation, how many were killed outright for land?
If America, which has always tried to do the right thing even when we stumble, needs a lecture on moral hygiene, it won't be from an old bloody handed former imperial power in Europe. So they can go F*** themselves.
Posted by: puggs on January 22, 2003 05:59 PMIf it really were just for oil, we could ally ourselves with Sadam and together rule all the middle east oil. Give ourselves 50 cent gasoline and make France and Germany pay 9 or 10 dollars a gallon - no, wait, they are metric - make them pay 10 dollars a litre.
Posted by: Gene 6-Pack on January 22, 2003 08:19 PMI second that!
Posted by: Brent on January 23, 2003 10:07 AMfuck em- I'm... let's invade Canada first so we can shut their whiney pieholes...
Posted by: Madman on January 23, 2003 10:12 AMhey gunny I just wanted to say that your post was written like a rational warmonger.I should know cuzz they say thats what I am!
Try the quiz and I bet you fall in that category too!
Posted by: Madman on January 23, 2003 04:08 PM
Terror War : The American Administration Is A Bloodthirsty Wild Animal
by Harold Pinter - December 11, 2002
Earlier this year, I had a major operation for cancer. The operation and its after effects were something of a nightmare. I felt I was a man unable to swim bobbing about under water in a deep dark endless ocean. But I did not drown and I am very glad to be alive.
However, I found that to emerge from a personal nightmare was to enter an infinitely more pervasive public nightmare - the nightmare of American hysteria, ignorance, arrogance, stupidity and belligerence; the most powerful nation the world has ever known effectively waging war against the rest of the world.
"If you are not with us, you are against us," President George W. Bush has said. He has also said: "We will not allow the world's worst weapons to remain in the hands of the world's worst leaders." Quite right. Look in the mirror, chum. That's you.
America is at this moment developing advanced systems of "weapons of mass destruction" and is prepared to use them where it sees fit. It has more of them than the rest of the world put together. It has walked away from international agreements on biological and chemical weapons, refusing to allow inspection of its own factories. The hypocrisy behind its public declarations and its own actions is almost a joke.
America believes that the 3,000 deaths in New York are the only deaths that count, the only deaths that matter. They are American deaths. Other deaths are unreal, abstract, of no consequence.
The 3,000 deaths in Afghanistan are never referred to. The hundreds of thousands of Iraqi children dead through American and British sanctions which have deprived them of essential medicines are never referred to.
The effect of depleted uranium, used by America in the Gulf war, is never referred to. Radiation levels in Iraq are appallingly high. Babies are born with no brain, no eyes, no genitals. Where they do have ears, mouths or rectums, all that issues from these orifices is blood.
The 200,000 deaths in East Timor in 1975 brought about by the Indonesian government but inspired and supported by America are never referred to. The 500,000 deaths in Guatemala, Chile, El Salvador, Nicaragua, Uruguay, Argentina and Haiti, in actions supported and subsidised by America, are never referred to.
The millions of deaths in Vietnam, Laos and Cambodia are no longer referred to. The desperate plight of the Palestinian people, the central factor in world unrest, is hardly referred to.
But what a misjudgment of the present and what a misreading of history this is. People do not forget. They do not forget the death of their fellows, they do not forget torture and mutilation, they do not forget injustice, they do not forget oppression, they do not forget the terrorism of mighty powers. They not only don't forget: they also strike back.
The atrocity in New York was predictable and inevitable. It was an act of retaliation against constant and systematic manifestations of state terrorism on the part of America over many years, in all parts of the world.
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In Britain, the public is now being warned to be "vigilant" in preparation for potential terrorist acts. The language is in itself preposterous. How will - or can - public vigilance be embodied? Wearing a scarf over your mouth to keep out poison gas?
However, terrorist attacks are quite likely, the inevitable result of our Prime Minister's contemptible and shameful subservience to America. Apparently a terrorist poison gas attack on the London Underground system was recently prevented.
But such an act may indeed take place. Thousands of schoolchildren travel on the Underground every day. If there is a poison gas attack from which they die, the responsibility will rest entirely on the shoulders of our Prime Minister. Needless to say, the Prime Minister does not travel on the Underground himself.
The planned war against Iraq is in fact a plan for premeditated murder of thousands of civilians in order, apparently, to rescue them from their dictator.
America and Britain are pursuing a course that can lead only to an escalation of violence throughout the world and finally to catastrophe. It is obvious, however, that America is bursting at the seams to attack Iraq.
I believe that it will do this not only to take control of Iraqi oil, but also because the American administration is now a bloodthirsty wild animal. Bombs are its only vocabulary. Many Americans, we know, are horrified by the posture of their government, but seem to be helpless.
Unless Europe finds the solidarity, intelligence, courage and will to challenge and resist American power, Europe itself will deserve Alexander Herzen's declaration - "We are not the doctors. We are the disease".
The article is taken from an address given by Harold Pinter on receiving an honorary degree at the University of Turin
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ZNet | Terror War
The American Administration Is A Bloodthirsty Wild Animal
by Harold Pinter ; December 11, 2002
By Earlier this year, I had a major operation for cancer. The operation and its after effects were something of a nightmare. I felt I was a man unable to swim bobbing about under water in a deep dark endless ocean. But I did not drown and I am very glad to be alive.
However, I found that to emerge from a personal nightmare was to enter an infinitely more pervasive public nightmare - the nightmare of American hysteria, ignorance, arrogance, stupidity and belligerence; the most powerful nation the world has ever known effectively waging war against the rest of the world.
"If you are not with us, you are against us," President George W. Bush has said. He has also said: "We will not allow the world's worst weapons to remain in the hands of the world's worst leaders." Quite right. Look in the mirror, chum. That's you.
America is at this moment developing advanced systems of "weapons of mass destruction" and is prepared to use them where it sees fit. It has more of them than the rest of the world put together. It has walked away from international agreements on biological and chemical weapons, refusing to allow inspection of its own factories. The hypocrisy behind its public declarations and its own actions is almost a joke.
America believes that the 3,000 deaths in New York are the only deaths that count, the only deaths that matter. They are American deaths. Other deaths are unreal, abstract, of no consequence.
The 3,000 deaths in Afghanistan are never referred to. The hundreds of thousands of Iraqi children dead through American and British sanctions which have deprived them of essential medicines are never referred to.
The effect of depleted uranium, used by America in the Gulf war, is never referred to. Radiation levels in Iraq are appallingly high. Babies are born with no brain, no eyes, no genitals. Where they do have ears, mouths or rectums, all that issues from these orifices is blood.
The 200,000 deaths in East Timor in 1975 brought about by the Indonesian government but inspired and supported by America are never referred to. The 500,000 deaths in Guatemala, Chile, El Salvador, Nicaragua, Uruguay, Argentina and Haiti, in actions supported and subsidised by America, are never referred to.
The millions of deaths in Vietnam, Laos and Cambodia are no longer referred to. The desperate plight of the Palestinian people, the central factor in world unrest, is hardly referred to.
But what a misjudgment of the present and what a misreading of history this is. People do not forget. They do not forget the death of their fellows, they do not forget torture and mutilation, they do not forget injustice, they do not forget oppression, they do not forget the terrorism of mighty powers. They not only don't forget: they also strike back.
The atrocity in New York was predictable and inevitable. It was an act of retaliation against constant and systematic manifestations of state terrorism on the part of America over many years, in all parts of the world.
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In Britain, the public is now being warned to be "vigilant" in preparation for potential terrorist acts. The language is in itself preposterous. How will - or can - public vigilance be embodied? Wearing a scarf over your mouth to keep out poison gas?
However, terrorist attacks are quite likely, the inevitable result of our Prime Minister's contemptible and shameful subservience to America. Apparently a terrorist poison gas attack on the London Underground system was recently prevented.
But such an act may indeed take place. Thousands of schoolchildren travel on the Underground every day. If there is a poison gas attack from which they die, the responsibility will rest entirely on the shoulders of our Prime Minister. Needless to say, the Prime Minister does not travel on the Underground himself.
The planned war against Iraq is in fact a plan for premeditated murder of thousands of civilians in order, apparently, to rescue them from their dictator.
America and Britain are pursuing a course that can lead only to an escalation of violence throughout the world and finally to catastrophe. It is obvious, however, that America is bursting at the seams to attack Iraq.
I believe that it will do this not only to take control of Iraqi oil, but also because the American administration is now a bloodthirsty wild animal. Bombs are its only vocabulary. Many Americans, we know, are horrified by the posture of their government, but seem to be helpless.
Unless Europe finds the solidarity, intelligence, courage and will to challenge and resist American power, Europe itself will deserve Alexander Herzen's declaration - "We are not the doctors. We are the disease".
The article is taken from an address given by Harold Pinter on receiving an honorary degree at the University of Turin
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Posted by: HAROLD PINTER on January 26, 2003 02:10 AMYeah, Henki's been filling my comment sections with anti-american tripe like ol' Pinter's diatribe here. Other than his habit of posting entire articles, he seems like your average America-hating Indymedia type. In other words paranoid, smug, self-righteous, and a little annoying...
Posted by: Captain Mojo on January 26, 2003 04:52 AMJesus, he's a long winded sack a puss ain't he? My eyes started to glaze over trying to read his post, he should write technical manuels. Pinhead, sorry,...Pinter needs an editor, and a less eager troll posting his perverbial leg humping. Never have a rolled up newspaper when you need one.
Posted by: puggs on January 26, 2003 11:21 PM